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PostSubject: Help needed with AFC   Help needed with AFC EmptySat Jan 29, 2011 5:28 pm

Hey guys
today i went installing the SAFC.I followed exactly the installations from the electric diagram of apexi.....
I initialized it (as it was used) and i made the first set ups.
When i turned on the engine there Was a mess..Rough idling going steady for a while and then dropped.This happens continuously
The safc screen shuts off every time the idle fells and then it turns back on...This happens continuously too with engine on....(i know that when the maf signal IN or OUT isnt connected the screen doesnt turn on)
I have engine fault 3117 (maf sensor short circuit).
I double and triple checked wiring and it was ok....Pulling off the maf plug this stops....but the car doesnt work right.....I replaced maf but the same.....what IS THIS????????
Oh i have taken power from pin 18 for the safc...is it possible that this is a prob?
I have connected signal in (white wire) to maf side and yellow as signal out ecu plug side.......why there is no signal?
Ι also noticed that with engine off when i press the throttle on the analog meter the indicator gos to 100%..Ileave the throttle but the indication doesnt drop...it stays at 100%

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PostSubject: Re: Help needed with AFC   Help needed with AFC EmptySat Jan 29, 2011 10:52 pm

pin 18 is okay...when the wiring is corect then the adjustments are wrong...did you have select hotwire sensor and did you have the same sensor types as in and out? the throttle is also set the rigt type?
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PostSubject: Re: Help needed with AFC   Help needed with AFC EmptySat Jan 29, 2011 10:58 pm

yes about the hotwire sensor and the same sensor types as in and out
but what do you mean about the throttle?
Why then i have a maf malfunction and check engine and the afc turns off and on when idle speed falls?

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PostSubject: Re: Help needed with AFC   Help needed with AFC EmptySun Jan 30, 2011 11:05 am

you have 2 throttle types falling and rising 5V! The probems you have I dont know such things with the afc
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PostSubject: Re: Help needed with AFC   Help needed with AFC EmptySun Jan 30, 2011 12:41 pm

Throttle set to rising!
It is crazy ...i reconnected the maf signal as original with all other cables on and then i need to ground the yellow output wire for the car to work...??><I disconnected the power of the afc but the same....
I took them all out and works normally......
Something is wrong with the whole thing....Are you sure about connecting the rpm signal to ignition coil?There sure is a shortcirquit somewhere but i cannot understand Mad
The fact is that when all connected the idle suddenly falls, the afc turns off, the idle rises afc turns on and all the same from the beginning...Also engine light turns on with 3117 fail

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PostSubject: Re: Help needed with AFC   Help needed with AFC EmptySun Jan 30, 2011 2:55 pm

yes rpm signal for ignition on ecu pin 1 you could also try it from the rpm gauge
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PostSubject: Re: Help needed with AFC   Help needed with AFC EmptySun Jan 30, 2011 2:57 pm

ok please lets go step by step tell me one by one the pins .....and then basic adjustments of afc just to recheck.....I dont think there is a problem but anyway....
even all throttle hi-lo settings to 0 the same happens

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PostSubject: Re: Help needed with AFC   Help needed with AFC EmptySun Jan 30, 2011 3:24 pm

okay rpm from apexi to ecu pin 1
maf input apexi to maf pin 3
maf output apexi to ecu pin 7
trottle apexi to ecu pin 53
ground ecu pin 19 one ner to ecu and one a litte bit away

adjustments all zero
maf in and out what you want
throttle rising
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PostSubject: Re: Help needed with AFC   Help needed with AFC EmptySun Jan 30, 2011 3:39 pm

wow wow wow ........!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(maf input apexi to maf pin3 - maf output7 apexi to ecu pin )
i cuted cable from pin 7 that goes to the ecu (green red) and i installed in between the apexi in and out (I think this is what you mean right?)
Also i used pin2 with black an brown cable as told as ground
Power i took from pin 37.
so i do not thing there is a problem iwith connection

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PostSubject: Re: Help needed with AFC   Help needed with AFC EmptySun Jan 30, 2011 5:22 pm

pin2 from maf or ecu? as ground? I think thats not could be the problem because it is only ground for maf

the rest seems to be okay
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PostSubject: Re: Help needed with AFC   Help needed with AFC EmptySun Jan 30, 2011 5:24 pm

ECU !i believe that too ...
the problem is that when in and out are connected to the apexi i have an engine light meaning the is something going on with the signal....
Is it possible this comes from adjustments?

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PostSubject: Re: Help needed with AFC   Help needed with AFC EmptySun Jan 30, 2011 7:02 pm

pin 2 on ecu is wrong!!! thats the signal for the engine light!
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PostSubject: Re: Help needed with AFC   Help needed with AFC EmptySun Jan 30, 2011 11:24 pm

I was searching again about it and i saw it!just before you send me the reply! I dont know from where i saw that pin 2 was ground........(stupid me!!!!!!)Thank you for your trouble man!!!!

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PostSubject: Re: Help needed with AFC   Help needed with AFC EmptyWed Feb 02, 2011 10:22 pm

ok installed it... can someone enlighten me how to adjust the best way?

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PostSubject: Re: Help needed with AFC   Help needed with AFC EmptyThu Feb 03, 2011 3:28 pm

its realy simpel

first you choose the percentage of high and low throttle I made is so...in low throttle I have no adjustments...hig begins with 30%
then you look at your rpm's when it begins to cut...then go to the adjustments and try from this rpm to adjust -percentage airmass when it's could outside it could be -20% and when ist warm it could be -8% at same rpm and throttle...and begin a few rpm's earlier with light - adjustments
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PostSubject: Re: Help needed with AFC   Help needed with AFC EmptyThu Feb 03, 2011 7:17 pm

so the general idea is to adjust less air?

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PostSubject: Re: Help needed with AFC   Help needed with AFC EmptyThu Feb 03, 2011 9:01 pm

yes so that you dont get 5V from maf to ecu! because of that you need bigger injectors
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